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Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Two units in the same complex

1401 Reed Ave, Units #17 and #18
San Diego, CA. 92109

#17, 2 bdrm, 1 bath, 918 sqft condo
Price Per Sqft: $511
HOA: $183/mo
DOM: 36
Year Built: 1980
1 Parking Spot

#18, 1 bdrm, 1 bath, 645 sqft condo
Price Per Sqft: $557
HOA: $143/mo
DOM: 35
Year Built: 1980
1 Parking Spot

#17:
Purchase Price (12/05): $459,000
Asking Price: $469,000

#18:
Purchase Price (12/05): $379,000
Asking Price: $359,000

This is interesting. They both closed escrow within 3 days of each other, they were both listed on the MLS within 1 day of each other, and they are right next to each other.

Who wants to bet this isn't just a coincidence? Remember how Casey Serin was purchasing multiple properties at the same time so that banks wouldn't know about each other on financing? I wonder if something similar was going on here.

It does surprise me. I mean to sensibely afford a condo for almost 500k, you would need to be a couple with dual income in the top 15% wage earners. I just imagined the top wage earners living in something better than an old 2 bdrm 900 sqft condo. I guess it's all the damn martians moving into the nice places. (or something absurd like rabid housing speculation and too-loose lending practices giving money to the people with crappy credit) Anyway, here are the breakdowns:

For #17:
Purchase Price $459,000.00
Sale Price $469,000.00
Association Dues $183.00
Holding Period(mo) 16
Mortgage Paid $39,780.00 (6.5% interest only)
Closing Costs $4,000.00
Property Tax $7,650.00
Estimated Monthly Rent $1,350.00
Estimated Monthly Loss $1,101.23 (if rented)
Estimated Monthly Tax Savings $696.15 (using 28% tax rate)
Sales Commission $28,140.00



Total Loss $39,759.60


And for #18:
Purchase Price $379,000.00
Sale Price $359,000.00
Association Dues $143.00
Holding Period(mo) 16
Mortgage Paid $32,846.67 (6.5% interest only)
Closing Costs $4,000.00
Property Tax $6,316.67
Estimated Monthly Rent $1,050.00
Estimated Monthly Loss $965.89 (if rented)
Estimated Monthly Tax Savings $574.82 (using 28% tax rate)
Sales Commission $21,540.00



Total Loss $60,994.27





On a side note, I was looking up some bonds earlier today, and I noticed a bond on the list from Lehmann brothers (home builder) with a 14.5% coupon and a double digit yield (that's how much of your investment is paid back to you every year). Yet, moody gave it an A rating... Now why would any company with an A rating need to offer so much?

15 Comments:

  • I used to rent 1401 Reed #17 for $1300 per month until the entire property was sold and they kicked all the renters out to make way for the condo conversion.

    The original owner made bank selling their rental complex.

    Sand and Sea made bank selling out the condo conversion.

    Who got screwed?

    1. The original renters that got kicked out.
    2. The soon to be in foreclosure people that bought the conversion condos.

    Seriously who pays 460k plus a $170 hoa for a converted "condo" that doesn't even have a washer and dryer in the unit?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:41 PM  

  • Wow, my $1350 rent guess was pretty close.

    By Blogger Sven, at 12:50 AM  

  • Lehman Brothers is an investment bank and not a home builder. The bond probably had a lot of options or other derivatives embedded in it. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:34 AM  

  • The REO's have come to Crown Point:

    http://sandiego.craigslist.org/rfs/301586493.html

    PB is sinking fast, if you thought the 30% drop in the 90s in PB was bad, you ain't seen nothin yet!

    Condos for everyone!

    By Blogger Mike in Pacific Beach, at 11:26 PM  

  • I used to rent #3 (1 BR) for $795 in the mid-90's.I went back to check it out to rent again and saw it had been converted. Then I see this! No matter how much lipstick you put on this pig, I'd be hard-pressed to pay $180k for one of these tiny, old things. I'm going on a 1 year lease downtown for a 2 BR with parking and storage for $1200 to wait out the resets, NOD's and the flipper's correction (FC).

    By Blogger covered, at 4:54 AM  

  • Seriously who pays 460k plus a $170 hoa for a converted "condo" that doesn't even have a washer and dryer in the unit?

    Bawahahahaha. Half a million dollars and you have to go OUT to do your laundry??? WTF !?!?!??! are people thinking.

    I really appreciate you guys making posts that make me laugh out loud. Thank you so much.

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    By Anonymous dennis07, at 3:28 PM  

  • We own two condominium units in the same complex, but they are not adjacent to each other. We actually reside in a two-bedroom on the fifth floor. The second unit is on the second floor. That is an efficiency which we use as our office, storage for clothes and occasionally for guests. We use both spaces on a daily basis.sportsbook We are considering selling both units and moving into a retirement home. Would the IRS consider these two apartments as one for tax purposes, or would we have to pay capital gains on the efficiency?
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    By Blogger Stivel Velasquez, at 12:03 PM  

  • i used to rent at #6 reed avenue and the landlady robbed our safety deposit rent just because we were students!
    Totally unfair!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:43 AM  

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