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Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Exactly one year later

It's been one hell of a year. I'd say it's been one of my busiest years ever. The crash in the real estate market has been good, great, and excellent for the tech industry. The concept behind this is a fun one. There's really only so much money out there, and the investors that were driving tech, biotech, and beanie baby innovations were all just pumping their money into the Fat Bastard that became the real estate industry.

Thank god it's over. The rest of the world can prosper now. I see that all the Costa Rica property spammers have taken good care of my blog. (bleh, time to clean up some comments)

What are we left with now. Well... I was right about everything. I mean, I might as well have predicted gravity, but, hey, I feel smart about it. I don't even know where to begin. Say you had bought those Countrywide Puts that I was recommending? Well you would have quadrupled your money. Say you listened to David Lereah and bought in 2006? Well you would have 14% less money now. I'd say that makes me about 5 times more right. (give or take, but hey who's counting)

The market has changed, and now we are in a new dynamic. Just where is Mr. Bottom going to be? If you are the kind of person who might end up on this blog, you are probably shopping for real estate. You might want to know "Just when SHOULD I buy?" That's the million dollar question... I mean it was the million dollar question in 2005, now it's the $850,000 question, and should we wait till it's the $600,000 question? Should we wait till it's a $550,000 question? These are all great questions.

Instead of answering them, here's a picture of some past statistical data that just looks cool:


Seriously though. Let's talk about it. Why not buy now? Why not buy a year from now? Here's something to keep in mind. The above chart shows movement from 1990 to about 2007. The chart then drops off the edge and dies a tragic death. This chart is a measure of change, not a measure of prices. In a way, that actually makes it more useful. Essentially, real estate was in positive growth territory all the way from 1997 to half way into 2006. That's 9 years of positive growth. Now we have had almost 2 years of downward movement. The last downward cycle we had in real estate followed a surge that was the statistical equivalent of mini-me to the most recent real estate boom, and it took 6 years before any real gains could be established when the graph went into negative terrirtory. 6 years!

T
his actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. When the dot com crash occurred, it took almost 5 years for people to take the internet companies seriously again. These movements take time, and prices will likely flat line for years after they have finally reached a settling point.

There is no crystal ball here. If you want to buy, buy to live. Do the math. Run a rent-vs-own calculator and set the rent appreciation and housing appreciation values to 0%. See exactly what you are getting into. If you are paying $300 more a month, but it's worth it to you so you can own the place you live in and get a tax writeoff, that sounds great! If you are paying double what rent would be for your POO (Pride Of Ownership), well maybe you aren't thinking things out. Financing is hard now. Expect to put 5% down for under 417k, and 10-15% down for over that. If your credit score isn't over 700, maybe it's not a great time for you to buy yet.

As it stands now, prices are still plummeting and cooler heads will prevail in much larger houses for a smaller price. The deals you can find now are few and far between with most sellers still clinging to the prices of yesterday. The actual inventory of reasonably priced homes is very small, but the inventory of overpriced homes is huge. It's not a buyer's market..... not yet anyway.

Good to be back!

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7 Comments:

  • Hi Sven, welcome back! :) It's been an incredible year indeed. Things just keep getting worse and worse. I hope you can keep up with all the new bad news in real estate. I suspect it will be yet another bad year for all the real estate bulls. Thanks for coming back, I will enjoy reading this blog again regularly.

    By Blogger norcaljeff, at 10:36 PM  

  • I think you should post more frequently.

    Once every year is just too long.

    Good to have you back. ;-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:50 PM  

  • Sweet, so glad to see you're back. Looking forward to more postings. Did you ever buy that house you mentioned on Kris Berg's blog? And are you still in the PB market. The price stickiness has been painful to watch here in PB.

    By Blogger Jakob, at 2:24 PM  

  • Sven
    Welcome back. Glad to see the new posts. We need your perspective.
    How can I quadruple my money today?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:25 PM  

  • I made a lot off of my PUT's on Lehman Brothers (stock symbol LEH). The stock has been tanking, and my investment has basically doubled since then. I should have posted about it, but I'm still not back into the blogging thing completely.

    I've been working a lot since the real estate crash. I work in Tech, and Tech is experiencing another explosion lately. It wouldn't surprise me if we have another tech bubble in the early stages here.


    As far as making money, it's tricky right now. You might still make some money buying put's on Lehmann brothers because they have a lot more bad mortgages coming in and they have barely written anything down since the crash.

    I'm in the crowd who thinks the euro has peaked. I wouldn't be buying them anymore either. I'd also avoid commodities. Although oil is likely to go up another $20, it could easily go down $20. Right now it's speculators holding it up, and (just like in real estate), when the speculators are running the show, you should get out.

    Real estate may not be a bad investment pretty soon. When you look at it, think strictly based on rental income return. If a place rents for $1400 and the 10% down total carrying costs are around that, it's probably a solid long term investment. Another way to look at it is take the annual rent/carrying costs and see what your return is. Rent is a stable return, so a return of 5-6% is great.

    If you invest in real estate now, don't invest for appreciation. It could take 10 years for prices to make any reasonable gains, and it's more than likely that prices are not done going down.

    Want a long term stock tip, try Intel (INTC). They have a low PE, solid dividend, and they won the war with AMD. Everyone uses their chips now, and their market share is going to be monopolistic again pretty soon.


    If you want to quadrouple your money in a short period of time, I can't help you right now. I'll keep you posted if I see anything that looks good.

    By Blogger Sven, at 9:29 PM  

  • Sven,

    Welcome back! In your absense I've actually moved back to PB. Its great to be back. Let me know if you're ever at Lahainas I'm right behind it and we could grab a beer!

    By Anonymous nades, at 9:09 AM  

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